Magdi Badawy
Background and Life Story
At a young age, unexpectedly, consciousness knocked at Magdi’s door and revealed a reality which is beyond the mind.
This was the beginning of a long spiritual journey of meditation, contemplation and inquiry which led to the sharing of his understanding.
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In his own words:
In a flash of insight, I realized that the person I believed and felt myself to be was a complete figment of my imagination. The universe was playing a game in its infinite imagination and creativity.
In that insight, the personal structure and identity collapsed, and I realized that my reality is glorious and majestic. My reality was revealed to be infinite and eternal. I became an ocean of joy, bliss and ecstasy.
A deep stillness and certainty settled in my being.
In the following years, further insights (non-events) followed while I delved deeply into Zen meditation as well as in inquiry into my true nature and mind.
In 1973, I joined the Sharon Springs Zen Center led by Richard Clarke and later on, I joined the Rochester Zen Center with Philip Kapleau. In 1981, I joined Toni Packer at the Springwater Center for Meditative Inquiry.
For years, this exploration continued while I remained a layman, engaged in raising a family and work.
When I met the Advaita teacher, Francis Lucille, my questioning came to an end.
That is when the clear message came to me to share my understanding with friends.
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I acknowledge the helpful influence of many friends and teachers, too many to list. But in particular, John Kohler, Richard Clarke, Philip Kaplau, Toni Packer, Catherine Cloud, Rupert Spira and Francis Lucille.

Overview
Magdi's spiritual journey
A brief summary of Magdi's spiritual journey, in his own words.
AWAKENING
College years and Awakening
Magdi reflects on the Awakening experiences during his college years which resulted in a permanent dissolution of the imagined self.
Magdi Badawy - Overview
I was introduced to spirituality in 1973 when I had a glimpse into the illusion of my personal stories and my personal mind, which seemed so real for me previously.
I had a revelation of a higher reality, which is very joyous, free, and majestic. Glorious. This reality was myself. I was simultaneously witnessing it and being it.
Nowadays, I refer to this reality as ‘formless and borderless consciousness/awareness’.
I was introduced to non-duality, Advaita, around 2011 when I met the advaita teacher Francis Lucille.
After asking Francis a series of questions, my questions ended.
This was followed by a glimpse which had a sense of finality to it. I refer to this glimpse as ‘the merging’.
I could and can no longer find any distinction between myself and the world, between my body and the universe, or cosmos.
In terms of my teachings, although I had been very interactive with people since my initial glimpse in the 70s, my real teaching started in 2011 right after ‘the merging’.
Since then, I have been meeting with friends in person and online. Recordings of most meetings are posted on my YouTube channel.
Starting in 1973 I did Zazen and Zen retreats (sesshins) at the Sharon Springs Zen Center and then at the Rochester Zen Center.
After the Rochester Zen Center, I met Toni Packer, who used to be teaching at the Rochester Center and worked with her for many years.
After Toni Packer, I needed to take a few years of leave of absence from any formal practice and engage in my own unstructured contemplation.
Now I meet with friends in person and online.
Online, we meet twice a week via Zoom for a guided meditation and answering questions.
Magdi Badawy - College Years
I immigrated to New York in August 1968 and completed my Associate of Science degree at Nassau Community College on Long Island.
In 1970, I received a scholarship to attend Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI) in Upstate New York.
The winters were harsh, but I loved the beautiful foliage and landscapes of New England.
Rensselaer was very challenging academically. The educational standards were very high. I spent lots of hours studying, doing lab work and cramming for exams. I was very committed academically, trying to achieve the highest grades. My student life seemed to progress normally.
A major event occurred in my senior year. Suddenly, without any preparation and unexpectedly, I had an initial spiritual glimpse which was beyond the way my ordinary mind functioned until now.
It must have been in 1972.
One night, as I was walking on campus, going to the library, I had an out-of-body experience.
Walking in the dark, I experienced myself looking down at myself walking on campus. I was looking at myself from a distance in space. Beyond the clouds.
I was both the one in space looking down as well as the one walking. This man walking on campus was me, and this observer in space was also me. The same me. How could I be in two places simultaneously?
This immediately raised a very deep question. Which one of the two was I?
The experience was unsettling, vivid and kinesthetic.
Am I the student on campus walking towards the library, or am I this other awareness, this other perceiving being out there in space?
This was startling, and I started to explore how my mind functions. It is as if I was awakening to a mysterious internal mind. A puzzling experience that I could not bury under the rug.
At that time, we were allowed to audit various classes. My curiosity and interest in learning about my internal experience led me to auditing various classes in psychology and philosophy, seeking to get some clarity from academia. But none of the classes was resonating or providing an answer or direction. The courses I audited seemed too conceptual. They were not providing me with any clarity.
Until…
One day, I audited a class on Eastern Philosophies taught by the chairman of the humanities department, Professor John Kohler. Eastern philosophy was new material for me.
I immediately liked the teacher, John Kohler. Possibly something about his demeanor and his way of talking and smiling.
In class, he started with the Vedic scriptures, which sounded like Chinese and did not resonate for me.
And yet, I decided to continue auditing the class.
After the Vedas, John announced that the next topic of study is Buddhism and the Buddha’s teachings. I had heard about Buddhism without knowing much about it.
I did not expect what was going to unfold that first morning of lecture about Buddhism.
I remember sitting towards the back of the class, halfway listening. Prof John Kohler started the class by casually saying that the main principle of Buddhism is that there is no personal self, or something to that effect.
As these words reached my ears, I fell into a hypnotic state. Those words went right through me to the depth of my being, to my inner heart.
There is no personal self!
There is no personal entity!
Something clicked in me.
The one-hour class had just started.
I completely lost the sense of time. It felt as if the class ended even before it started. It did not last one hour. It did not last. Time collapsed.
I rushed to professor Kohler, and asked him with intensity: “Professor Kohler, somehow I understand that there is no personal self, and yet here I am. HERE I AM. Can you explain this conundrum?”
I guess my intensity must have grasped his attention. He understood the depth of my question, and invited me to meet in his office.
This was the beginning of a long and deep friendship. We would regularly meet at his office and I would share my questions and new insights. He was always present, available and interested in listening and guiding me.
John Kohler was my first and very dear mentor friend.
To a certain extent, I did not immediately and fully understand the depth of our conversations. But every time that we met, something would shift, something would be revealed. I never left empty-handed. These shifts were subtle and quite significant.
Something very precious was slowly unfolding.
I remember one day, I was walking up the hill towards his office. As I was walking, I found a small watch, a ladies watch, on the ground. I picked it up, and went to meet with him. When I told him, “John, as I was coming over to see you, I found this watch.” to which he replied: “Did you find the watch, or did the watch find you?” Something to that effect.
Of course, his question may seem silly to many. But for me, it had a deep impact. It had a deep import. Something was being shared there.
Who is the doer?
What am I?
During our numerous meetings, there were many incidents like that, many insights, many conversations where he would say something, or I would share something, and he would make a comment, and it would take me deeper into the mystery.
It felt very precious, meaningful and profound.
One night, I was with a couple of college friends on campus and we were high. A conversation started about no self, no personal self. It was a topic that was always stirring in my mind. I was on fire with this question.
As I was trying to share my questions and my understanding with my friends, there was a very profound glimpse. It was as if an energetic field came from the right side, my right side, and traveled right through me.
In that instant the whole structure of me, my whole life, my whole family, my identity, my nationality, my beliefs, my stories, my everything was seen to be empty, completely void and collapsed like a deck of cards.
And what was revealed was a glorious, joyful and majestic field of truth and clarity. I was this reality, and it was magnificent.
I experienced a great joy, gratitude and an inexpressible happiness and a sense of freedom that was beyond the mind.
I was that. I am that.
The collapse was complete and irreversible. There was a flash of understanding that left no doubt.
The answer was given to me. I don’t know what the question was. I am not even sure that I could formulate what I understood.
Later that night, in the middle of the night, I called John. It must have been two or three o’clock in the morning.
As the phone rang once, he was there, answering: ‘Hello, this is John’.
He told me he was just stepping out of the shower (at 3:00am?).
“John, I just had an amazing experience.”
And he said, “What is it?”
I realize it now. I understand now. There is no self. There’s no separate self. It collapsed.
We met that morning. He guided me towards Zen. Zazen. I joined a local Zen center in Sharon Springs and started sitting.
It took many decades of exploration and contemplation to be fully established in this revelation. What I can say is that, after that glimpse, I was never the same. Nothing was ever the same as it was before.
While previously I was swimming on the surface of the ocean, managing the waves, now I was diving deep, deeper and deeper.
I was no longer.
The identity had cracked.
Yes. There was a body mind named Magdi. Brothers, mother, etc. Yes, there was a school curriculum.
But its rigidity and solidity had been seen through as if seeing through a mirage.
My entire focus had shifted. My reality shifted from external limited solidity to internal formless and joyful infinity.
Zen practice at Sharon Springs became my path.
I loved sitting.
Initially, it was very difficult for the body to sit in those postures. Zazen in the US was inspired by the Japanese rigid and regimented samurai tradition.
Japanese postures are painful for westerners. But in spite of the pain, I loved sitting. I did endless hours of sitting. At home, I would wake up at five or six in the morning and sit for two hours, and then sit again during the day.
I was, one could say, obsessed with sitting. I loved the silence, the stillness, the inner looking and inner contemplation that sitting (Zazen) provided. I loved going to retreats at the Rochester Zen Center (RZC).
It took me forever to finish my Master’s degree. My heart was no longer in the thesis and in the research. Thank goodness that I had a very open-minded adviser who was very patient and supportive, allowing me to complete my Master’s thesis.
In the seventies, I hitchhiked quite often. New York to Colorado. New York to Davis, California. New York to Florida. At times, hitchhiking is an inner journey, an exploration.
Life is always unfolding. I eventually married and had two kids. Then divorced and remarried.
I will speak more about my layman’s life in the next section.
A layman’s life is a fascinating and crucial part of the spiritual journey.
Magdi as a householder: The layman years
All my life, I have been a layman, a householder. Raised two children, earned my living as an entrepreneur. In spite of having a higher education in engineering, I chose to live outside the formal business world.
I was enrolled in a PhD program in OB in New York. After finishing my courses and starting my thesis, I took a year off and traveled to France. Upon my return, I started baking pastries in a small apartment in Manhattan and ended up owning a wholesale bakery and two cafés in the West Village.
A few years later, I was at the helm of a small business selling computer hardware and software to various governmental agencies in Northern Virginia. I ended my career as a small time builder in Washington, DC.
Being a layman is quite challenging for a truth lover. So many opportunities to come face to face with your fears and disappointments. Life is very generous this way. It pokes at your most cherished beliefs and attachments. It exposes your underbelly, your reactivities, your patters of evasion and defense. Your justifications and judgments.
Life keeps coming at you. Challenging you and inviting you to find a better way, a more harmonious way of living. Life is a tough teacher. One of the best. Each one of us is served the meal that is meant for them
I have learned so many things:
Not to become a sacrificial lamb. Not to make decisions out of fear. With my clients, not to hesitate to express my gratitude as well my personal worth and the value of my services.
To be myself, my exposed self, my raw self. To discover the innocent child within, and to see that same innocent child in others.
Life exposes our inner psychological panorama and invites us to grow up and learn. We live in relationship and interaction. That is not an easy thing to do.
The understanding that ‘the other is myself’ is crucial.
The question is how to live life while knowing that we belong to the same reality?
What about our personal conditioning? Our quarky habits? Our stored and bottled up emotions. Our aggression towards others whenever they do not meet us the way we expect that they should?
What about our frozen parts?
Everything is game. Everything is available for exploration and contemplation. It is such a rich journey to be a truth lover while living in the midst of the action.
It is said that one year as a householder is worth 10 years as a cave dweller/meditator.
Spiritual Bypassing
During the spiritual path, we can get some glimpses into our true nature. We may realize that our essential nature is pure formless awareness and not a mortal body mind entity.
These glimpses are very significant. They reveal deep understandings about our reality and can help in dissolving the belief that I am a limited self.
But these glimpses are not the end game. It is not the end of the journey, as some may assume.
There is more to discover. The body is deeply conditioned and needs to awaken as well.
Sometimes the excitement of the glimpses creates a spiritual ego. We do not realize that more insights need to follow these glimpses.
First, we need to stabilize in the understanding that ‘I’ refers to impersonal formless presence.
Further, living that understanding is essential. That is not an easy task to accomplish.
Life will challenge us and will trigger our reactivity. Certain life situations will trigger negative emotions and destructive patterns of behavior.
The body mind is ancestral. Many buried patterns of feeling and reacting are stored in the body, awaiting to come to the surface.
They arise to be healed, to be explored and understood. There is a liberation aspect for the body. Meeting negative emotions with awareness and interest is part of the healing journey.
Humility, sincerity and honesty are required.
In many cases, a truth lover awakens to their true nature as formless awareness, but they overlook the integration and the healing part of the path.
They do not do the emotional work that is required in order to heal the body from its old conditioning.
The emotional body is complex. The nervous system is often triggered by life events and requires harmonizing.
Some students of the way grasp onto spiritual concepts such as there is no one that is suffering, or there is no personal self.
In doing so, they have separated themselves from the totality.
That is spiritual bypassing.
It can be very difficult to free oneself from this spiritual ego without the guidance of a teacher.